LS Message /LSmes set from FF11 that shows when logging in. (translated w/answer)

[viion]

Considering using third party applications are against TOS regardless of what it is, its not good idea to be like "oh just go download this x app and it'll do it", i could say same thing, make a legit site and a legit app, that is secretly a key logger, mwuahaahah.

End of day, SE shouldnt force you to have to use third-party apps to fix their shoddy skills.

[Xeak]

http://store.steampowered.com/about/




This is why I haven't played in a week and am seriously considering leaving the game. This shouldn't be hard to begin with. The problems with this game are far beyond game mechanics if this is a "very hard thing to do". I literally cannot think of something that should be easier to implement than this... maybe reskins?

Thanks for the link!

[Rau]

Like Viion, said, keep in mind that using 3rd party applications like Steam is against TOS.

[Wolfie]

SE sells FFXI through Steam. I really, really doubt they care if you use it.

[Viridiana]

It's more that if we all find workarounds and shut up about it, SE will never fix it.

[Adol]

It's more that if we all find workarounds and shut up about it, SE will never fix it.

We can use the workarounds and still be vocal about the issues at hand. I never said anything about keeping quiet about things.

[AlexiaKidd]

I am trying to suggest using something which is perfectly fine to use.
I am 100% sure SE would be fine with you using it to play FFXIV with.

It doesn't matter how many times anyone says it's against the ToS, I have mentioned Steam on many threads on this forum in the past and I have received no warnings about it.

Please stop saying applications such as Steam are against the game's ToS, it's getting really old now. It's especially aggrivating when I'm trying to help people out.

Also saying "oh but SE shouldn't force me to find workarounds" is very childish. Why say "no" to simple, easy and legitimate solutions? Why is it so difficult to DEAL WITH IT while SE sort things out on their end in the meantime?

I seriously don't understand the mentality of a few people on this forum.
Maybe I'm just being trolled. Please say you're trolling me so I can be relieved of the feeling that some people are mindless enough to say that using Steam is something which could potentially get you banned.

Well technically speaking it is against the TOS but SE would have to be complete asses to ban you for using it to make up for their bad programming. I don't use the Steam overlay as I don't like the built in browser so I play in windowed mode and use Shift Window to force fullscreen. Technically I could get a ban for that too but again SE would have to be out of their mind to actually ban someone for it because they can't program a proper fullscreen+alt/tab option.

[Adol]

Well technically speaking it is against the TOS but SE would have to be complete asses to ban you for using it to make up for their bad programming. I don't use the Steam overlay as I don't like the built in browser so I play in windowed mode and use Shift Window to force fullscreen. Technically I could get a ban for that too but again SE would have to be out of their mind to actually ban someone for it because they can't program a proper fullscreen+alt/tab option.

Yes, I understand that it is a 3rd party application. But like you say, SE would be out of their minds to do anything like banning people for the use of the Steam overlay. This is why I get rattled when someone tries to make a point about it being against the ToS and even advising against using it because it is against the ToS.

Also when SE made that post about 3rd party applications, I am pretty sure it was referring to applications which have a direct effect on the gameplay. If it meant every program which was not by Square Enix, that would mean an internet browser beside your FFXIV window while playing windowed would be considered against the game's ToS. Heck, even using the Windows operating system would be against the ToS. This is where it starts getting ridiculous.
If anything, SE need to update that post regarding 3rd party applications and tools and state exactly what they do not want people using instead of lazy blanket terminology.

[twinkles]

Appalled that SE gave this as a reason, I really hope it is some sort of translation confusion(I doubt it though).

Two issues in one- Playing in full screen...."so what's going on tonight" , "check the ls forums" ...."okay one sec while i minimize"...crash....gg

[Adol]

Appalled that SE gave this as a reason, I really hope it is some sort of translation confusion(I doubt it though).

Two issues in one- Playing in full screen...."so what's going on tonight" , "check the ls forums" ...."okay one sec while i minimize"...crash....gg

(Translation confusion.) (Yes please.)